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VOGUE - SEPTEMBER, 1994
DEPP GETS DEEPER
By James Ryan
Portrait by Annie Leibovitz
Johnny Depp escaped an unhappy childhood to become a teen idol, he fled
that image by playing a bunch of quirky, alienated youths, and has now
graduated to adult roles. But as James Ryan learns, the actor hasn't
forgotten his roots--or his taste for the bizarre.
In a few hours, Johnny Depp will squirm beneath a vaulted ceiling in
the guise of legendary make-out artist Don Juan, surrounded by
fountains, silken shrouds, and a harem of 250 women—250 naked
women. He will want desperately to take each one aside and ask,
"Are you OK with this?" Are you comfortable shedding your clothes?
For now, seated in a tutti-frutti vinyl booth at the West Hollywood
grunge cafe/billiard parlor Barney's Beanery, he'll do his darndest to
make life a little easier for a harried, apologetic waitress named
Kelly. Kelly, with obvious discomfort, has just informed the bleary-
eyed movie star that the only coffee she can offer him this sun-drenched
July morning is chocolate mint.
"Sounds like a Girl Scout cookie. Wild," Depp says, his mouth
curling into a secret smile at the absurd image. Kelly, shifting from
foot to foot, has a look on her face that says, "You know, Johnny, if it
were up to me, I'd run out to the supermarket myself . . ." Depp's
smile vanishes. He fixes his soulful doe eyes on hers and, in his
best nicotine voice, soothes, "You know what? I'll have Coca-Cola
instead. Jumbo." Kelly begins breathing again.
After she takes the rest of his order, scrambled eggs, sliced
tomatoes, bacon, and rye toast—which will remain untouched for the
next two hours, gathering a fine coating of pool chalk and cigarette
ash—he says, "I have large respect for waitresses. My mom was a
waitress when I was growing up. Years and years I watched her wait
tables. I'd count her change at the end of the night. I used to skip
school. She'd feed me, me and my pal. Give us hamburgers or
something . . . " His voice trails off.
Despite the accolades, the sacks of fan mail, the screaming mobs at
airports and movie premieres, Depp's ego is firmly tethered to the
past. Moments like this, he says, bring out the part of him that is still
the "seventeen-year-old gas-station geek" in Miramar, Florida, who
dropped out of high school to pursue dreams of rock 'n' roll stardom.
Today he is the epitome of bad-boy chic in a paint-splattered black
T-shirt, black jeans, scruffy industrial boots, and a tattered fifties
jacket, a trio of heavy silver chains dangling beneath features that
have enjoyed the caresses of Winona Ryder and his current love,
superwaif model Kate Moss. His greatgrandmother was a full-
blooded Cherokee, which explains the cheekbones—and the Indian-
head tattoo on his upper right arm. It's hard to imagine that Depp
once envied the ease with which the captain of the football team
chatted up the cheerleaders. But he insists, "I was not the most
popular kid in school. I always felt like an absolute and total freak.
Edward Scissorhands. That feeling of wanting to be accepted but
not knowing how to be accepted as you are, honestly. Wanting to
hold a girl but thinking I'll screw it up."
What better revenge than getting paid a seven-figure salary to live
out the ultimate adolescent fantasy? His own harem. But instead of
reveling in the exposed flesh, the star of Don Juan DeMarco and the
Centerfold will only feel discomfort and disorientation. "It's really
strange," he will say after filming the scene. "The first thing I felt was
uncomfortable. When you walk into a room full of 250 naked women,
you can't . . . you almost can't, it's impossible to focus on it. It's
almost, in a way, wallpaper." He interrupts to edit himself. "Like a
painting. 'Wallpaper'is the white trash in me slipping out. The
painting is much more, yeah, that describes it better. There are so
many girls and they're so nude, it's not .... It almost would have been
more intense if there were three nudes. It would have been more like,
uh, shocking. 'Cause you just, I don't know, you're just not able to
register the fact that . . ."
Depp inhales deeply on a cigarette and tries again with a quote from
his Don Juan costar, Marion Brando. "Brando once said 'Acting is a
strange job for a grown man.' Nobody's expressed it better."
And growing up is a hell of an act for a strange boy. With his next
two films, Tim Burton's Ed Wood (out next month), in which he plays
the title role of the twisted movie director, and Don Juan, Depp, now
31, is tentatively wading into adult waters. Although his speech
remains in suspended adolescence—a staccato of stutters, curse
words, and uncompleted sentences—he's "done" with the preverbal
oddball characters who lofted him from teen idol to respected actor.
Gone also are his bravura tales of juvenile delinquency. These days
getting neoadult Depp to talk about his stints in jail, his chemical
abuse, his tattoos, his scars, paying people to smell rancid
sausages, is like squeezing tears from a rock. Depp reinvented
himself once before, shrewdly spoofing his image in John Waters's
Cry-Baby to escape the bubble-gum straitjacket of 21 Jump Street.
Now he's determined to graduate from boy-man to, well, at least
man-boy.
The first step was to find his voice. In Ed Wood Depp chatters up a
storm as the exuberant 1950s cross-dressing director of C-movies
like Plan 9 from Outer Space and Glen or Glenda. "I've never had to
talk that much in my life," says Depp. "Nonstop verbiage. It was
tiring, but so much fun."
Fun is not an adjective Depp uses to describe last year's
performance as the title character of What's Eating Gilbert Grape?
Playing the small-town son who takes care of his mom and retarded
brother was too much like reliving the past. His own parents split
when he was fifteen, and he did more than his share of filial hand-
holding, as well as picking up the support checks from his dad. "It's
always taxing to play something that's closer to reality," he says.
"Those four months were a very difficult time in my life. I just felt
awful." (Asked what he inherited from his parents, he replies,
"Insanity and chain-smoking.")
He'd much rather "build a character from the ground up," soar on a
flight of fancy. For Ed Wood he concocted a "weird soup" whose
ingredients include bits of the Tin Man, Ronald Reagan, radio
personality Casey Casem, and swashbuckler Errol Flynn. Flynn was
also an inspiration for Don Juan, along with a pinch of Ricardo
Montalban and Fernando Lamas.
Both characters also appealed to Depp's innate, and slightly
antiquated, sense of chivalry and his identification with the
underdog. Wood fancied himself another Orson Welles, but his low-
budget films, starring a motley assortment of has-beens and
wannabes, wallow at the bottom of critics' Worst 10 lists. Whenever
reality impinged, Wood retreated to the comfort of angora sweaters
and high-heeled pumps. Depp, reteaming with Scissorhands director
Burton, scraped off the tarnish to find a misunderstood knight in
shining armor. "He's one of those guys from the forties who were
real gentlemen, very charming, loyal to his people," says Depp.
"Don Juan was also very chivalrous. Those guys don't exist
anymore. Everybody is trying too hard to be hip or be accepted."
Suddenly a call comes in on his cellular telephone. It's Jeremy
Leven, the writer-director of Don Juan, in which Depp plays a
psychiatric patient whose therapist must determine if he is insane
merely because he thinks he's a fourteenth-century seducer and
walks around in suede pants and knee-high boots. (At Depp's
suggestion, Brando was hauled out of semiretirement to play the
therapist.) Depp has arranged for some buddies to see dailies, and
Leven is calling to ask if Depp is planning to attend. "No, uh, it's just
for my friends," he says.
Leven should know better. The one and only time Depp braved
dailies, on his first movie, A Nightmare on Elm Street, he nearly
vomited, and he has refused to watch them since. "I'm better off not
even seeing the [finished] movie," he says.
In fact, the only professional accomplishment Depp can watch
without gagging is a ten-minute short film he directed called Stuff; a
dog's eye journey through a man's beer-bottle-and-pizza-box-
encrusted life. "It's completely honest. We just examined this guy's
house with a Steadicam," he says. "With writing or directing, you can
almost get to the point where you're satisfied with acting, you're
forming images with emotions. If you're satisfied, you're dead in the
water because you stop. I can just make this face, and make it look
like I'm sad or like I'm angry. If I ever look at something I did and
say, 'That was great,' I'll immediately dive in the river."
Eleven years have elapsed since Depp drove to Los Angeles with
his band, the Kids, in search of a record contract that never
materialized. It was his pal Nicolas Cage who suggested he try
acting. Cage introduced Depp to his agent, who sent Depp to see
director Wes Craven, who cast him in A Nightmare on Elm Street.
Depp was paid scale wages to play a kid who gets swallowed by a
bed. He next appeared in a teensploitation film, Private Resort. Then
came a real break: Oliver Stone cast him in Platoon—but most of his
scenes landed on the cutting-room floor. By 1987 Depp was broke
and living in Cage's old one-room flat just up the street from
Frederick's of Hollywood. He was thinking about picking up his
guitar again when an offer came to join the cast of the fledgling Fox
network's new undercover teen series, 21 Jump Street. "I remember
scraping together Mexican pesos Nick had left in the drawers and
exchanging them at this check-cashing place on the corner. One day
it was that way and the next I was on a plane to Vancouver and they
were handing me money. It was wild."
Within a year he was receiving 10,000 fan letters a month—and he
wanted out. John Waters provided the escape hatch and Tim Burton
the slide. Depp knew he had a talent for communicating with his
eyes and body language, so for Edward Scissorhands he
convinced Burton to drop most of his dialogue; he modeled the
character after a dog. "I feel closer to that character than any I've
ever played. Like me, he was an outsider. That's the string, the
monofilament, that ties all [my characters] together. I can't escape
that."
As a kid, Depp loved to dig tunnels in a vacant lot near his home,
getting off on the fear of a cave-in. A few years back, he hung by his
fingers five stories above the ground from the edge of the Beverly
Center. Now he looks for that same pure adrenaline rush in his
roles; the possibility that he might mess up keeps it exciting. To
make taking the plunge easier, Depp has surrounded himself with "a
little built-in family" who trail him from set to set. They include
makeup and wardrobe people as well as his elder sister Christy
Dembrowski, 33, whom he has hired as his personal assistant.
An informal poll of the Don Juan makeup trailer comes close to
qualifying Depp for sainthood: sweet, kind, and above all, generous.
Patty York, Depp's makeup artist on four of his last five films, says,
"He'll give you the shirt off his back." (Literally: The other day she
said she liked the shirt he had on. He took it off and gave it to her.)
He also regularly treats the crew to champagne at the end of the
day.
And they return the favors. His wardrobe person Ken Smiley has
helped Depp transform his trailer from beige Americana to oriental
salon, draping walls, ceiling, and furniture with gold-embossed
Indian fabrics. One end of the living area has been converted into a
shrine: A copy of William Saroyan's The Trouble with Tigers, a
purple lava lamp, and a pewter heart-framed portrait of Depp and
Moss flicker in the light of a dozen votive candles. Burning incense
and Ravi Shankar sitar music complete the effect.
"Johnny is so totally different from most actors," says Smiley. "He
really likes who he is, and he's really secure in that. He treats
other people the way he wants to be treated. That's why we stay with
him."
Saint Johnny is not without his demons. Between takes, he reveals
these: insomnia, a fear of crowds, chain-smoking, an antagonism
toward authority figures that has landed him in jail on at least three
occasions (after jaywalking in Los Angeles, assaulting a hotel
security guard in Vancouver, and speeding in Arizona), and an
"erratic" personality that makes him a little tough to live with. "I'm
30 different people sometimes," he says. "One day you wake up and
you're somebody else, nowhere near who you were when you went
to sleep."
None of those wear a dress, he says, though as a teenager he did
borrow frilled blouses and seersucker flares from his mom's closet to
augment his rock 'n' roll wardrobe.
Dressing in drag for Ed Wood, says Depp, "tripled" his respect for
the ordeal "women go through when they get Zsa Zsa-ed." And, he
adds, "I was the ugliest woman ever." (Costar Patricia Arquette, who
plays his wife, Kathy, disagrees. "He looked great in a dress," she
says. "But we both hated those period stockings; they don't hold up.
I think the angora by the end was getting on his nerves.")
"Let me show you something," says Depp, disappearing into the
back of his trailer. He returns carrying a box of Ed Wood mementos:
a pair of Rita Hayworth-style cross-strapped pumps; a two piece
gold-and-black-tasseled brocade number used in a striptease
sequence; and, carefully wrapped in tissue, long-sleeved angora
gloves joined at the back, designed by Colleen Atwood to hide his
tattoos. "I keep stuff from movies so I can give it to my grandchildren
someday . . . if I have them."
There was a time not too long ago when Depp would readily
volunteer to interviewers that his only real goal in life was to "get
married and have kids." These days the actor is more circumspect. "I
believe in loyalty and commitment, but the idea of marriage is not
the end-all. I don't think that's the ultimate answer to true love, if
there is such a thing as true love."
He was married once at 20, but divorced two years later. Depp
legend has him again popping the question to Sherilyn Fenn,
Jennifer Grey, and, of course, Ryder. He insists that reports of his
engagements have been "complete fabrications" but refuses to
elaborate "because I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings." He's
also mute on what exactly happened to the famous WINONA
FOREVER tattoo inked on his right shoulder. "It transformed itself,"
he says, then adds to further cloud the issue, "But it was never
WINONA FOREVER. They got it wrong." (Photos would seem to
contradict this.)
Cultivating an aura of mystery has always been a major component
of Depp style. And now more than ever, he seems compelled to
keep secrets. "There's a huge part of him that's not within your
reach," says Mary Steenburgen, who played his lover in Gilbert
Grape and is now a close friend. "He doesn't casually let himself
over to people and let you know who he is. If you're his oldest friend
or his lover, perhaps that's not true, but for most people, I think he's
both accessible and inaccessible."
Still jet-lagged and shell-shocked from the paparazzi assault during
an extended weekend in Rome with Moss, he is in no mood to
discuss his love affair with the model, which began in February. If
she voiced any objections to his numerous love scenes in Don Juan,
he's not telling: "I've got a job. She's got a job. It's a job. And movies
are make-believe."
It does seem an odd pairing. Depp has attended only one fashion
show in his life, an Isaac Mizrahi AIDS benefit. A single designer
outfit hangs in his closet, a suit given to him by "that Armani guy,"
which he wore to the last Academy Awards. "It was real sweet, real
nice of him. Otherwise, Christ knows what I would have put on," he
says—feigning ignorance of the claw-and-fang battle among
designers to get their outfits worn at Oscar time.
Depp is also outspoken in his views on America's greed and
consumerism, while Moss gets paid a fortune to hawk products from
trendy underwear to designer gowns. What does he think of the
modeling profession?
"It's an oddball gig," he says with an uncomfortable shrug. "I'm
nobody to pass judgment. I can only have my opinion. It's real weird."
When pressed for details, he closes the door, gently but firmly. "My
relationship with my girl isn't something I'm going to discuss with
anybody, especially a guy with a tape recorder," he explains. "No
matter how much I like them."
If there is one thing he learned from parading his four-year on-and-off-
again relationship with Scissorhands costar Ryder, it's that no matter
how many details you feed the media (or as he likes to call it, "the
sick pig machine"), it is never satisfied.
"Initially, I tried to be open," he says of his Hollywood Camelot days.
"[I thought,] I'll just say what I'm feeling right now, let them swallow
that, and then they'd leave me alone. But that creates even more of a
monster. You're walking around, you eat a piece of pizza, go visit the
Coliseum, next thing you know there's a guy with a lens as long as your
leg taking pictures. Whether Kate and I are together or not is not going
to save anybody's life. It's nobody's business but mine or hers. I'd
rather come out in the press and say I'm [screwing] dogs, or goats, or
rats than attempt [to rely on them to] write anything real about my
relationship."
There is venom in his choice of words, but they are spoken matter-
of-factly, with an almost eerie absence of malice. Depp is
uncomfortable in the role of the angry man; he'd much rather play
the clown.
Or the knightin shining armor. On Arquette's first day on the set of
Ed Wood, she recalls, one of the extras in a wedding scene went
ballistic. "Between takes she would turn to me and say, 'I'm going to
kill myself because of you.' Then they'd say, 'Rolling!' and she'd
stop. I was in a very perilous mental state with this constant mental
assault. Johnny went up to her and said, 'Hey, listen, she hasn't
done anything to you, you have no right to spew that stuff out at her.'
He was very chivalrous. He has a really calming effect on people.
He completely stabilized her insanity."
Under other circumstances, he might have befriended the woman;
Depp has an appreciation for the more absurd characters and
circumstances of life. He derives fiendish pleasure, for example,
from checking into hotels under naughty pseudonyms, forcing friend
and stranger alike to participate in the joke. "It's funny to get a wake-
up call at some ludicrous hour, like 5:30 in the morning, and the guy
has to say, 'Good morning, Mr. Donkey Penis. Good Morning, Mr.
Drip Noodle. You have to get up now."'
Asked for an example of something that really gives him a belly
laugh, Depp relates the time he woke up at 5:00 A.M. at a friend's
house in the South of France and spotted his host in the backyard
quietly reading Proust. Depp grabbed a big knife and snuck up
behind him. "This noise came out of him that was absolute terror,"
recalls Depp. "Pure, pure fear. I fell over laughing. That destroyed
me."
Depp also responds to smells and shapes, the stranger the better.
His most extravagant purchase in the last year was an oddly shaped
Arts and Crafts lamp. The lamp, along with his collection of Art Deco
furnishings, black-and-white photographs of favorite authors Jack
Kerouac and William Burroughs, and gilt-framed seventeenth-
century Italian oil paintings he bought in Paris, is currently stored in
a house Depp rents in the Hollywood Hills.
"Homeless" since the house was knocked off its foundation in the
January earthquake, Depp has been gliding between hotel rooms
and the guesthouse behind his agent's home. Most nights after work
he can be found at his Sunset Boulevard club, the Viper Room,
modeled after a speakeasy from the 1930s. Despite the media
frenzy that ensued to look for a scapegoat following River Phoenix's
overdose there last Halloween, it remains one of the few safe places
he can retreat to. "It's horrible when anybody dies, especially when
somebody's made a fatal mistake," he says. "But the tabloid press
grabbed ahold of that thing and made a circus out of it. Drugs are
the number one business in this country, yet they have to come
down on one club on the Sunset Strip. River was trying to escape
something. He could have been at a supermarket, in a hotel room,
driving in a car. Either way it's really sad."
Recently Depp has begun plotting his own Brando-style escape from
Los Angeles, possibly to Paris or the serenity of a twelfth-century
monastery in the South of France. "There's apart of me that would like
to have a place with endless land around me," he says, "a haven in
the country, somewhere you could ride a horse or ride your bike and
wouldn't have to worry about 800 greedy people trying to get
somewhere half a second in front of everyone else."
For the time being he'll have to be satisfied with the protected world
of the movie set. "Unfortunately, I feel more comfortable in front of
the camera now than I do in life," he admits. "On the set, you feel
close to the people, you're working together. When you're in a
restaurant in real life, you're having dinner with the girl, drinking
wine, you're looking around and there are all these people looking at
you. It's a little weird."
Depp pops up and announces, "I have to get [my beard] taken off my
face." On his way out, he tosses me a book to leaf through called Le
Petomane, 1857-1945, the biography of Joseph Pujol, a fin de siecle
Moulin Rouge performer who could play "Clair de tune" out his, er,
derriere. "That's courage," Depp says, completely serious. "A guy
who says, 'Here's my talent—take it or leave it.' Blows opera out his
butt. That man was a true artist. I mean that."
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